When President Trump took to Truth Social earlier this year and attacked Pope Leo for being “WEAK on Crime, and terrible for Foreign Policy,” most Catholics were understandably shocked. But a clash between a secular leader and the bishop of Rome is hardly without precedent. This week on “Jesuitical,” hosts Zac Davis and Ashley McKinless talk with Miles Pattenden, an expert on popes and papal conclaves, about the long and quirky history of feuds between popes and politicians.
In Signs of the Times, Zac and Ashley discuss the Vatican rejection of a request from the German bishops to allow lay people to preach the homily at Mass. Plus, a look ahead at Pope Leo’s summer plans.
And in As One Friends Speak to Another, America Media’s O’Hare fellows—Brigid McCabe, Ed Desciak and Will Gualitiere—share some spiritual insights from a year working at the intersection of the church and the world.
Learn about America Magazine’s Joseph A. O’Hare, S.J., Postgraduate Media Fellowship
Links from the show:
- Vatican to German bishops: No lay people preaching homilies at Mass
- Extraordinary consistory signals Pope Leo’s push to work with cardinals on global challenges
- Pope Leo speaks out on SSPX ordinations and U.S.-Iran deal
- Pope Leo to accept Liberty Medal and address Americans on July 3
- Electing the Pope in Early Modern Italy, 1450-1700

