This week, “Jesuitical” co-host Ashley McKinless and producer Sebastian Gomes speak to Michael W. Higgins about the spiritual master, Father Henri Nouwen (1932-96). They explore Nouwen’s “wounded healer” approach to ministry, his brokenness and vulnerability, and his impact on contemporary Catholic thought.
In “Signs of the Times,” Ashley and Zac discuss Secretary of State Marco Rubio’s meeting with Pope Leo, plans for a border wall through a pilgrimage site, a cosmetics mogul turned Catholic priest, and when customer service hung up on Pope Leo.
Links from the show:
- Pope Leo XIV’s First Year
- Pope Leo meets with Marco Rubio amid Trump’s personal attacks
- Catholic diocese fights Trump administration plan to seize pilgrimage site for border wall
- Cosmetics millionaire turned seminarian, he’d give fortune ‘back a million times’ for Jesus
- Story of customer service agent hanging up on Leo shows pope’s ‘normal’ side
- Genius Born of Anguish: The Life and Legacy of Henri Nouwen
- 2026 Henri Nouwen Conference: “Longing for Home: The Prophetic Witness of Henri Nouwen in a Wounded World”
- Henri Nouwen Society
- Henri Nouwen: How to (actually) pray without ceasing
- The Monk and The Cripple by Henri Nouwen, 1980
- Performative piety: Why liturgy is not a space for self-expression

