A Critical Moment

Printer-friendly versionJohn R. Quinn
Barack Obama, Notre Dame and the future of the U.S. church
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At critical moments in life it is important to take stock. The demand from many Catholic bishops and lay leaders that the University of Notre Dame rescind its invitation to President Obama to deliver the 2009 commencement address is surely a critical moment in the relationship between the Catholic Church in the United States and the wider American society. Before battle lines harden further on this issue, we should take time-out to ask some hard and penetrating questions. These are some of the questions that occur to me.

1. What if the president is forced to back out of his appearance at Notre Dame either because he withdraws or the university withdraws its invitation? If this happens, will that further the pro-life effort in our country? If the president is forced to withdraw, will that increase cooperation between the Catholic Church and the Administration, or will it create mounting tensions and deepening hostility? If the president is forced to withdraw, will that bring about fewer abortions in the United States? Will his withdrawal under such pressure lead more people to support pro-life efforts?

2. If the president is forced to withdraw, how will it impact the image of the church? Will it enhance the mission of the church? Will it create a more positive attitude toward the Catholic Church?

3. If the president is forced to withdraw, how will that fact be used?  Will it be used to link the church with racist and other extremist elements in our country? Will the banishment of the first African-American president from Catholic university campuses be seen as grossly insensitive to the heritage of racial hatred which has burdened our country for far too long? Will it be used to paint the bishops as supporters of one political party over another? Will this action be seen as proof that the bishops of the United States do not sincerely seek dialogue on major policy questions, but only acquiescence? 

These questions are not negligible. Cardinal James Gibbons, when he received the "Red Hat," in a memorable sermon at the church of Santa Maria in Trastevere, strongly praised the tremendous benefit that came to the church in our country because of the separation of church and state. During our more than two hundred years of history, the American bishops have until very recently steadfastly held to the position of making judgments about policy but never judgments about persons in the political arena. One reason for this position was that the episcopate recognized that the greater good of the mission of the church would be served in this way.

Taking account of what serves the greater good of the mission of the church is not opportunism. It is what Catholic tradition calls prudence. The saints have used various words for this cardinal virtue: discretion, discernment, practical wisdom. The great teacher of discernment, St. Ignatius Loyola, points out in this context the serious evil of the temptation of the good. Not everything that seems good is in fact good. Weighing, discernment and discretion are necessary even in things that seem on the face of it to be good. There is always the twin issue of the objective itself and the means of achieving it. One may be good, the other not.

We American Catholics are grateful for the benefits of the separation of church and state. But that separation is not the separation of church and society--the state is not society. The church has a proper role in society and a constitutionally guaranteed freedom of religion. It is the right and the grave obligation of bishops to speak about the moral dimensions of public issues.

Even so, we must step back and consider the limitations--prudential, moral and political--on the role of bishops in public issues. In doing so we need to consider the longstanding policy of the American episcopate in this matter. We must weigh very seriously the consequences if the American bishops are seen as the agents of the public embarrassment of the newly elected president by forcing him to withdraw from an appearance at a distinguished Catholic university.  The bishops and the president serve the same citizens of the same country. It is in the interests of both the church and the nation if both work together in civility, honesty and friendship for the common good, even where there are grave divisions, as there are on abortion.

But it does not improve the likelihood of making progress on this and other issues of common concern if we adopt the clenched fist approach. The president has given ample evidence that he is a man of good will, of keen intelligence, desirous of listening and capable of weighing seriously other views. The Directory for the Pastoral Ministry of Bishops, citing Augustine, points out that “ Certain situations cannot be resolved with asperity or hardness” and goes on to say “(B)ecause his daily pastoral concerns give the Bishop greater scope for personal decision-making, his scope for error is also greater, however good his intentions: this thought should encourage him to remain open to dialog with others, always ready to learn, to seek and accept the advice of others.”

Most Rev. John R. Quinn is archbishop emeritus of San Francisco, Calif.

Comments

Billy O'Donnell | 8/29/2009 - 12:38pm
Well then... "The Mighty O'Quinn"gives a lot of what ifs.What does he think of no invitation at all or is he just another elitist.
E Burke | 8/23/2009 - 11:22pm
The question that Archbishop Quinn fails to ask is "Why Notre Dame a Catholic Institution of higher learning invited a President whose Pro Life Stance is so for at odds with the teachings of the Church?"  One might argue that George Bush's support of the Death Penalty as govenor of Texas should have excluded him from speaking at Notre Dame; and it should have.  With the recent developments with the culture of death i.e. instructions to Veterans speaks volumes that President Obama is promoting an Anti Life Culture. Shame on you Sheperds of the Church; Shame on you Bishop Quinn for arguing the wrong point after the fact. To Bishop D'Arcy your work has only begun its time that Notre Dame is purged of its heritical faculty; who continue not in the relm of academic freedom but in front of the camera to promote teachings that are contrary to the Faith.
Michael Hoban | 5/19/2009 - 4:39pm
I hope that Archbishop Quinn's reflections will help many US Catholics to realize that we are called to dialogue with respect with men and women of good will who hold opposing views to our own. I would like to express my personal gratitude to Archbishop Quinn for his wise reflections. Michael Hoban
jose m. carbon | 5/16/2009 - 1:38pm
These bishops (and laity) who are oppose to Obama's invitation to ND, are they the same bishops who kept quiet about their clergy abuse of children? I believe Christ used the word hypocrites when speaking of ...
Father J. | 5/11/2009 - 1:51pm
Archbishop Quinn seems to advocate doing the same thing he did when asked by Rome to chair the investigation of American religious in the early 90s: NOTHING. Thanks to his anaemic view of Catholicism and religious life at that time, the Church now has to go to the trouble of again conducting another investigation and visitation of American Sisters, this timeby means of two far more formal and expensive procedures, and God knows the damage thes secularized Sisters have wreaked upon the Church in these two decades, with pantheism, pagan rites, post-Christian theologizing and the like. Get it right the Cathlolic way, Your Excellency, or take your seat, please!
Jeremy Stevens | 5/8/2009 - 11:51am
What would you expect from AMERICA but praise for Notre Dame's decision. Very enlightening that the very first comment very full in its praise was from the Rainbow Sash gang. Whenever Thomas Reese, SJ pontificates (strange how liberals always manage to PONTIFICATE even though they dislike it when pontiffs do so), the media quoting him generally fail to mention as a disclaimer, for surely it is one, that he was removed as Editor of America by the very Magisterium he is constantly criticizing. No great surprise to have a University like Notre Dame applauded by a journal like America: both are about equally as "Catholic."
Robert Meza | 5/6/2009 - 5:20pm
Brilliantly, written article. Fr.John Jenkins has taken Notre Dame to a new level of leadership and understanding. The Holy Spirit moves in mysterious ways and has always been multi-dimensional in its approach. Life, is not one dimensional, this article highlights these truths. I look forward once again to excellent journalism...
Marie Slattery | 5/5/2009 - 11:26am
i believe that the problem is rooted in the ideology of the Church having a mission, when in truth the church evolved to support the mission of Christ. show me where it says that Jesus kept company with only the "correct" people who already agreed with him.
Thomas Magner | 5/3/2009 - 9:41pm
This is disgracefull. The fact that you would not have solidrity and loyaly with the rest of the Bishops in the USCCB tells me somting about your politics. Repent for your misguided message, you are not a voice of reason, you are a voice of destruction. May God have mercy on your soul.
Christopher Taylor | 5/3/2009 - 3:16pm
I voted for Obama because I knew that he would make a better President than the one before him. He will have to do a lot of things to correct the harm the last President left him. Unjust War, torture, Our budget and debt a complete shambles, and although he said he was pro choice, what improvement has there been in abortions. This President will save more lifes in his working on health insurance for every one. Trying to work with the rest of the world and not alone. And maybe he will cut down on abortions! I vote with Father Jenkins.
Diane Clemens | 5/2/2009 - 5:53pm
Thank God a voice of reason has been heard! It would do far more good for Church/society relations if Obama would appear. We have lost our ability to listen.
BRO. JOSEPH TRUNK O.F.M. | 5/2/2009 - 8:29am
I JUST WANT TO PRESENT ONE MORE QUESTION. WILL THE PEOPLE WHO WANT OBAMA OUT OF THE NOTRE DAME COMMENCEMENT ALSO WANT THE POPE TO REFRAIN FROM VISITING OBAMA AT THE WHITE HOUSE WHEN HE VISITS THE U.S.A. ?
Mrs. T | 5/2/2009 - 1:45am
Obama is the MOST radical Pres. we have seen when it comes to abortion. He is over the top. He wants no restrictions and 3 times voted down the Born Alive bill, which is a polite term for INFANTICIDE. There is no way Obama should be held up as a role model to graduating CATHOLIC students.And, there is no way that a CATHOLIC university should bestow an honor on a person holding Obama's extreme views. I am extremely disappointed in ND and FR. Jenkins.
Irish89 | 4/29/2009 - 11:36am
I have numerous interests in this debate as a Catholic, Notre Dame alumnus, and Obama supporter. What I found most interesting is not the article but many of the responses. The cons can be summed up in one of two camps: the "one issue" Catholics and the conservative politicians. On one hand many anti-visit folks are quite content to perpetuate the imagine of Catholics as a "one issue" religion (ie, abortion). On the other hand, many anti-visit folks see this is a political war. Both use abortion as their rally cry. Yet both camps are misguided and mistaken in their positions. For the first camp, the Catholic church (from declarations and documents from the Pope and Catholic Bishops) does not take the stance that "pro-life" equates solely to "anti-abortion". The support for life includes abortion, contraception, death penalty, torture, war, famine, and economic issues. Why continue to paint the picture to middle America of us as one note zealots??? If these people were more consistent in their application of Church doctrine on "life", I perhaps would be more likely to tune in. Instead they become caricatures of Catholic doctrine. For the political camp, this is so obviously an attempt at retribution for Bush's loss. They have conveniently picked up the "abortion" mantra to appeal to right wing Catholics just as it appears to the Republican's core evangelical base. Yet similar to my comments on the Church's support for "life", Obama is consistent with that message in many areas: death penalty, war, torture, famine, and economic issues. George Bush appeared at Notre Dame during his tenure....why were these same people not up in arms over his lack of support for "life" in the form of war, torture and economic issues? Or go back to Ronald Reagan's visit....did his administration not help fund Central American governments whose death squads terrorized their citizens and murdered a group of Catholic nuns? So why were their voices silent then over "life"....because of politics. I am all for dialogue on the issues facing both America and the Catholic Church. Notre Dame taught me well in this regard I think. Why turn away the honor as Americans to have the President of the United States come to the most distinguished American Catholic University? Why turn away that opportunity as Catholics to have dialogue with the most powerful American on this very important issue? For the "anti visit" camp it is simply a matter of misintrpretation of Church doctrine or simple partisan politics....neither makes for much of a dialgoue.
Bob Metivier | 4/22/2009 - 1:44pm
Very well thought out and written article. Though I think that it was important to actively "voice" the Catholic position re: the abortion agendas currently embraced, there are other very important issues to consider. Not the least of these is the manner in which the Catholic Church will engage our current culture and society, maintaining an environment of mutual respect and consideration. Acquiescence, either demanded or given without cause or principle will not further that engagement. http://bobmetivier.blogspot.com
Julie | 4/18/2009 - 4:03am
Right on Mr. Robert C. Blase!
Reyclaw | 4/15/2009 - 4:00pm
1. What if the president is NOT forced to back out of his appearance at Notre Dame? If the invitation is not revoked how will it further the pro-life effort in our country? Cooperation between the Catholic Church and the Obama Administration? They don’t cooperate now how do you get worse than this? Why not take a stand and show the Catholic American voters what the Catholic Church’s stand IS? Christ did not come to bring happy feelings, he brought a sword of division. Will allowing Obama to speak bring about fewer abortions? Probably not, neither will disallowing him, this is a moot point and irrelevant. Will this withdrawal bring more people to the pro-life movement? Allowing him to speak sure wont. 2. How will it impact the Churches image? It will ideally show the America that the Church will not tolerate or cooperate in any evil. Will it enhance the mission (get souls into heaven)? Maybe, maybe not, but allowing him to speak sure doesn’t accomplish this either. Why care about how the world views of the Church. Care about how God views the Church. 3. If the president is forced to withdraw, how will that fact be used? Good question, the hope is to send a message that the Catholic Church is opposed to abortion views. Maybe we will be viewed as evil but the Bible tells us that this will happen when proclaiming the Truth. We cannot be scarred of others when proclaiming the Truth. Will it be used to link the church with racist and other extremist elements in our country? Will the banishment of the first African-American president from Catholic university campuses be seen as grossly insensitive to the heritage of racial hatred which has burdened our country for far too long? Race is not the issue, don’t make it the issue. Will it be used to paint the bishops as supporters of one political party over another? If President Obama speaks will it be used to paint the Catholic Church as accepting the Obama administration as well as supporting one political party? Will this action be seen as proof that the bishops of the United States do not sincerely seek dialogue on major policy questions, but only acquiescence? Sure it could be used this way, but it could never be backed up. The bishops are continually seeking dialogue.
HGP | 4/14/2009 - 11:45pm
The president has given ample evidence that he is a man of good will [he is for the murder of unborn, partially born, and fully born (from botched abortions) babies and he is for the murder of his own grandchild so he wouldn't punish his daughters with a baby and Obama is for starving or dehydrating to death the disabled (he regretted his vote in the Senate that allowed Terri Schiavo's family a chance to appeal her murder by Judge Greer)], of keen intelligence (he said it was above his pay grade when asked when a baby gets human rights and where is his record in college that showed any other intelligence), desirous of listening ( he appears to listen but he doesn't understand and after you are done he ignores you) and capable of weighing seriously other views (he is an idealogue and is an elitist).” These statements by Archbishop Quinn show a magnificent ignorance of who Obama is. He needs to speak with people who have encountered him in Illinois. Obama has no record of achievement in any of his post college life. His voting record shows him to be an extreme leftist and his statements, when caught off guard, show him to be a liar (regarding his vote on the Born Alive Infant Protection Act in the Illinois Senate) and an elitist (people cling to their religion). He doesn't understand natural law and was heavily influenced as a teenager in Hawaii by a communist and his church for the last 20 years of his life taught liberation theology which is also communist inspired. Obama should not get a platform to spew his propaganda onto the people at Notre Dame and he most defintely has not earned an honorary degree. The recent report on the U.S. seminary visits (at the USCCB website) showed that there was a big deficiency in the Moral Theology programs and Archbishop Quinn, Father Jenkins and some others show that they need to go back and take that course over from someone in line with the Magisterium. Would Archbishop Quinn want to work with "civility" and "friendship" for the common good if Obama was promoting the dismemberment and/or puncturing the skull and sucking out the brains of "retired bishops". It is easy to intellectualize an intrinsic evil when it is not happening to you.
Bob A | 4/13/2009 - 5:04pm
Amen, Augustine!
CHARLOTT PACE | 4/13/2009 - 4:47pm
All of you are right who say that abortion is an overriding issue. It’s so critical that we cannot, in conscience, merely brush off the opposition. Dear people, look around you. The pro-life tactics we have been using – comparing abortion to the Holocaust, portraying pro-choice opponents as demonic, invoking moral outrage as sufficient cause to refuse them respectful hearing -- clearly have not worked. Abortions continue. They continue no matter who is in the White House. It’s strange that our outrage is so easily assuaged when a candidate merely tells us that he’s pro-life. We elect him, assured of our righteousness--and abortions go on and on. Those of us who are pro-life would be better off if we were less concerned about the salvation of pro-choice neighbors and a little more concerned about our own. What are we to answer when Christ asks us, “When you saw that your tactics were not working, what did you do then?” Archbishop Quinn, Douglas Kmiec, and many others are braving persecution by fellow Catholics because they know it’s time to find a new tactic. Right now, engagement with the opposition seems to be a starting point. President Obama promised mutual hearing in his campaign. We should be as generous. We need to take steps, no matter how awkward, to delve into the heart of the matter with each other, to find the root causes of abortion, and address them rationally and, yes, charitably. That’s how we’ll save unborn lives, which is our goal, yes? Surely that’s more important than displaying to the world our long tassels of righteousness? I’m sure President Obama is well aware of the controversy surrounding this invitation. I’m looking forward to hearing how he responds to it in his commencement address. We will then have a much better idea of his thoughts, and how we might charitably help him discover weaknesses in his position. And by the way, anyone who interprets Notre Dame’s invitation to the President of the United States as acquiescence to that President’s views should sign up for a course in logic at any Catholic university.
BLASE CUPICH | 4/13/2009 - 12:32am
Joan Sheridan takes issue with Archbishop Quinn's article by noting that no bishop has asked ND to rescind its invitation to President Obama. I agree. Those exact words have not been used. However, the clear impression left by the very strident and self-admitted angry language of some bishops is that nothing short of rescinding the invitation will calm them. Moreover, what are we to make of the statement of the Archbishop of Indiana to the president of ND: "I await some action that indicates your regret concerning a truly wrong decision." Finally, it is also worth pointing out that there are many similarities in the comments made by bishops who are negative about the ND invitation. In fact, all of it resembles the action of a growing mob. Sadly, unlike Archbishop Quinn they do not come across like pastors who are strong loving and wise.
Tori S. | 4/12/2009 - 10:22pm
Thank you Archbishop Quinn for your article. As a student at Notre Dame, I have been reading letters from outraged students and alumni in our student newspaper and overhearing and participating in conversations about this issue. I am a very pro-life Catholic, but I fear for my school and the Catholic community as our reaction to the invitation of Obama to speak casts us in a negative light. At this point in time, I believe that the Notre Dame community, and the Catholic community by association, should accept the decision and should stop being completely intolerant of someone who may have different opinions than ourselves. A lot of the letters that I have read and the conversations I have heard are so intolerant and angry. I understand the pro-life stance and the inherent contradiction of asking Obama to speak, but, at the same time, I think it is dangerous to be so narrow-minded and intolerant of others, and one issue should not decide how we welcome Obama. Instead of being so intolerant, we should accept that we have differences and that we can learn something from each other. I am sure he has a lot of wise advice to offer to the senior class, and he has accomplished so much as a person. It is one thing to express our opinion aginst abortion, it is another to angrily demonstrate and lash out at someone who may have a different opinion.
Joan Sheridan | 4/12/2009 - 2:14pm
This article is inaccurate at the outset. I have carefully read all the statements of the Bishops and I have a copy of Bishop D'Arcy's statement and none of them mention anything about asking Notre Dame to rescind their invitation to President Obama.Most of them are asking Notre Dame to examine itself and to decide if it is a Catholic University.
Joan Sheridan | 4/12/2009 - 2:14pm
This article is inaccurate at the outset. I have carefully read all the statements of the Bishops and I have a copy of Bishop D'Arcy's statement and none of them mention anything about asking Notre Dame to rescind their invitation to President Obama.Most of them are asking Notre Dame to examine itself and to decide if it is a Catholic University.
John Lafferty | 4/12/2009 - 12:22pm
How come in this entire discussion, no one mentions who else Notre Dame has invited to the graduation, with President Obama? Hint: She is a well-known Catholic academic "defender of the faith" and former US ambassador to the Vatican. Notre Dame, as an academic institution, is responding to P. Obama's desire to have dialogue among people with different views.
Pamela Kaye | 4/12/2009 - 10:01am
Dear President Jenkins, I am writing to voice my complete and unwavering support of President Barack Obama speaking at the 2009 Commencement Ceremony. Frankly, I am extremely offended at Catholics who are against this incredible event. Let me also say, by way of introduction, that I am a 22-year-old female, quite Catholic. I was accepted to the freshman class of 2005, and although I declined the offer, I have every respect for Notre Dame University. Those who associate your invitation with supporting abortion rights are absurd and ridiculous. I am shocked and dismayed at the response, and part of me is seriously embarrassed to be Catholic, associated with the people who are so outraged that the President is speaking. They are obviously forgetting that fully half of the Democratic platform, the economic half, is very much in line with the Church – how can “real Catholics” deny the association of the Democratic party with social concern, welfare, homelessness, the poor, and generous benefits for all? Additionally, how can “real Catholics,” so concerned about the sanctity of life, oppose (or in this case, conveniently forget about) the Democratic views of the death penalty and war? It is ludicrous for them to make “Democratic” synonymous with “abortion” and “stem-cell support.” It is even more ludicrous for them to assert that through this invitation, Notre Dame will “send a message” that it supports abortion and stem-cell rights. Does any thinking person really come to that conclusion – without all the misplaced, panicked fanfare to initiate it? First, in no way does it send that message; second, these people are implying that Catholic people who hear about this have no mind or thinking skills of their own to make anything other than this gross leap. Third, and it blows my mind that everyone is forgetting this, the President is not there to talk about any of these things. This is an unbelievable, truly awesome and once-in-a-lifetime, even once-in-many-lifetimes event, and I am thoroughly jealous of this lucky class and their families to experience this. When I first heard the news, I was so excited for everyone involved – when I heard that there was opposition, I was floored, offended, and heartbroken. The more I read about the protest, the more I’m horrified with those protestors calling themselves “real Catholics.” Catholicism is not aligned with a political party, and I truly hate when it’s understood to be Republican. I hope and pray, and I have to trust, that you will not for a single second consider revoking this invitation. Please feel free to use any part of this letter and/or my name in any way you see fit. Yours, Pamela Kaye
Sr Sheila Galligan IHM | 4/11/2009 - 7:42pm
This is a splendid example of what the great C S Lewis would call "smudge and blur." The response neglects the need to make necessary distinctions (our culture is currently allergic to making distinctions). One celebrates "identity" at a commencement service and the invited speaker ought to exemplify the Catholic identity on this occasion. Notre Dame could invite the President (later in his term!) to participate in a good debate about some of the significant moral issues that ought to be explored.
Pierpaolo Polzonetti | 4/11/2009 - 5:27am
The community of the University of Notre Dame should be very grateful to Rev. Quinn for his wonderful insights and wisdom. A University is a place where faith and reason must go hand in hand, where people learn how to listen in deep respect of others’ opinions. In the whole controversy over Obama’s visit at Notre Dame what is at stake is not an opposition of pro-life politics vs. non pro-life politics (since Obama pursues a pro-life politics de facto, although unfortunately not yet de jure). What is at stake is not even an opposition of Rome vs. Washington, since only a small minority of the 195 US bishops has expressed concern for Obama’s visit at Notre Dame, and since the Vatican has remained wisely neutral. What is at stake is only an opposition of a kind of intolerance typical of fundamentalist groups of any faith vs. tolerance. Pope Benedict was forced to withdraw the invitation to speak at the University of La Sapienza (founded by a Pope 700 about hundred years ago) because of the protests of atheist bigots (this is not an oxymoron) and other intolerant fundamentalists, who refused to listen to a world leader and a great intellectual like Joseph Ratzinger. The University of Notre Dame is offered a great opportunity to show the world that her intellectual community can do and be better than that. Let’s hope this opportunity will not be missed.
Esther M Ferencz | 4/11/2009 - 4:14am
It SADDENS ME DEEPLY that we have an ARCHBISHOP, NO LESS..............BUT not "Surprisingly" from the CESSPOOL of IMMORALITY that you Archbishop QUINN PRESIDE OVER.... San Francisco, Named for St. Francis . This BEAUTIFUL, ONCE very DEVOUT and RICHLY CATHOLIC MORAL CITY, the city founded by THE FRANCISCANS ...has become a HATE FILLED, HOMOSEXUAL PROMOTER, BABY KILLING BY ABORTION LOVER CITY and STATE. AH..............CHORDS of MALICE and HATE MONGER I HEAR MY WAY.............NO just CALLING it what it is.........LOVE THE SINNER HATE THE SIN! BY THE WAY REMEMBER CHRISTS WORDS "YOU ARE EITHER WITH ME OR AGAINST ME" sounds like YOU BISHOP QUINN have taken the second route!YOU have takin OUT OF CONTEXT ST AUGUSTINE..in matters of church and state seperation............The PEOPLE OF this GREAT NATION left England to be able to practice FREEDOM "FROM THE STATE" IMPOSED on THEM by the CHURCH OF ENGLAND, TO, here in the NEW LAND PRACTICE AS THEY CHOOSE NOT as DICTATED by THE STATE................THAT WOULD BE CALLED STATEST..........and MARXIST by its very defination. Respectfully ARCHBISHOP you show MUCH IGNORANCE and DISOBEDINCE to THE CATHOLIC CHURCH in which you have PLEDGED to PROTECT and HONOR and OBEY {in your PRIESTLY VOWS} the POPE. Pope Benedict has NOT changed the churchs position on ABORTION as being MURDER, by contrast you are trying by deceit by mixed up verbage to cradle Barack Obama in the arms of the church as a mere politican who is good,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,BUT SIR in the area of life matters he is NOT GOOD! He is EVIL. AND sadly YOU are EVIL as well in partaking of coming forth with his being honored at NOTRE DAME...OUR LADYS UNIVERSITY........The HIGHER UP you are ARCHBISHOP, as you well know, the HARSHER YOUR JUDGEMENT by GOD, FOR THOSE WHO LEAD ASTRAY HIS FLOCK, especially CLERGY are doomed to deep and massive punishment by GOD. This is rudiment Catholic Education. As for the SOULS YOU LEAD ASTRAY by YOUR LACK OF PROPER CHURCH TEACHING ON LIFE ISSUES "YOU ENDANGER YOUR VERY SOUL" AND as you KNOW ARCHBISHOP that is for ETERNITY............not the short jolly little trip life is and the pandering of those who praise you as these posters on this site.............I am NOT ONE who would ever declare an ARCHBISHOP who THINKS ITS FINE that A PRESIDENT of the US be HONORED in a PREMIER CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY, HE BEING THE MOST "PRO ABORT" MAN EVER in the NATION to HOLD OFFICE.................NOT even ALLOWING babies born ALIVE DUE TO BOTCHED ABORT TO RECEIVE LIFE SAVING TREATMENT, that is BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS ARCHBISHOP QUINN! WORDS HAVE MEANING! AND your words in this article are STUPID and ASSINE, ESPECIALLY from one who is so SMART....................BUT NOT IN HIS FAITH AND VOW TO YOUR GOD YOUR NOT! MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR WANDERING SOUL! I DO NOT EXPECT "MY POST" TO BE POSTED as it does NOT DEFER to ARCHBISHOP QUINN and HIS HONORING OF BARACK HUSSAIN OBAMA!
John Manahan S. M. | 4/11/2009 - 12:16am
I congratulate Archbishop Quinn for his courage in speaking out on this issue which has become another divisive issue that separates Catholics one from another. A vocal minority of Bishops and faithful seem to have dominated this discussion and present what in my mind is a distorted view of the issue. Archbishop Quinn's remarks give me hope that there are bishops out there who see the bigger picture and are not as narrow in their views as some who can't see the forest because of the trees.
Grannie Annie | 4/11/2009 - 12:08am
Thank you, Abp. Quinn, for words of reason. Jesus DINED with the tax collectors. He welcomed the woman who was about to be stoned. He condemned the sin, but not the sinner. As a pro-life Catholic, I have felt a baby kicking in my stomach. After my first pregnancy, I knew that, around 4 months of gestation, that "bubble" I felt was not indigestion but a HUMAN. But I voted for Obama because I believe his attention to those most in need (and not those at the top of the income bracket, which seemed to be President Bush's "base") would in the end reduce abortions. I guess I am going to hell according to some of you and some of the Archbishops, like my own. Instead of protesting at some abortion clinic with your condescending smirks of hatred for the poor women going in there, consider working for healthcare so that these women who find themselves pregnant (and pressured to get an abortion, as my sister was) are in a system that will provide them with prenatal care and an adequate hospital in which to deliver their baby. My sister was pregnant, unmarried and could find no CATHOLIC OBs to do prenatal care. How hopeful is that? How pro-life? She was rejected by a CATHOLIC hospital which said she was beyond four months pregnancy and thus "high risk." How pro-life? What would Jesus do? (ANSWER: He hung out with the "high risk" folks.) He would welcome these women who find themselves abandoned by the men who impregnated them, or forced to have abortions by the men who impregnated them. Put your money where your mouth is before you criticize President Obama. Go rock a baby. Go find a pregnant woman and pay for her healthcare in an unwelcoming healthcare system where pregnant women, especially UNINSURED pregnant women are turned away. Regarding Abp. Quinn's question, "Will it be used to paint the bishops as supporters of one political party over another?" Sorry, in my Archdiocese, it's already been made pretty clear to us that unless we vote "REPUBLICAN," we are doomed to hell in the eyes of the Church (or at least in the eyes of our local Archbishop).
Adrian Garcia | 4/10/2009 - 6:06pm
Although there are two sides for this issue. we have he same crowd that is using the same logic than when Obama was elected president: "Abortion is not the only issue but we have to look at all other Social Isues." Now, a good number of those who call themselves Catholics but are not following the true doctrine of the church, are using the same illogical language: "Why should we retract Obama's invitation as his abortion stant id not the only issue, because he is also for social justice." It's appauling that a Bishop, a president of ND and his Superior, as well as Deacons and Nuns are for Obama's policies and his visit to ND. A true Catholic university should not associate itself with those who contradict the fundamentals of our Catholic religion. When other religions (Jews, Islam) are attacked and they revolt both in words and demonstrations, nobody disapproves of it. However, when Catholics defend their principles they are called bigots, radical, unchristian, etc... The silent minority is treated like dirt. It's about time we speak up and defend our faith and beliefs no matter what the consequences. If we continue accepting subservient treatment by the liberals, there will be a time when we will loose our freedom of speech used for self defense. I completely agree that ND should not be considered a "true" Catholic University as they have deviated from the principles and beliefs under which they where established.
Jim Babka | 4/10/2009 - 5:07pm
This is so typical of California liberal "Catholicism". The idea of society having a "positive attitude" towards the Catholic Church forgets the fact that the Church is not supposed to be concerned with popularity. It is concerned with absolute truth, which does not change according to the whims of society. Disinviting Obama would absolutely enhance the Church's true mission on this earth. The Church has been persecuted for the truth in the past, but the American branch has been co-opted into acceptance of evil by the general acceptance of Catholics by society. Catholics think that they can have just as much influence as others if they just go along with crowd, but our Lord definitely condemned this as evil. The truth is always the truth, and if society doesn't want to hear it, that's too bad.
Fr. Stephen Banet | 4/10/2009 - 4:50pm
What Would Jesus Do? Proposing this question is perhaps too simplistic in responding to the current ‘tit-for-tat’ concerning the invitation extended to President Obama to deliver the commencement address to this year’s graduation students of Notre Dame. Yet, I believe it is a question worth pondering. Jesus got Himself nailed to the Cross because of people He chose to associate with, dine with and invite into His life to come to know Him. He came into a world that set up boundaries pitting one group against another, refusing to see any possible good coming from the ‘other.’ He came into this kind of world of opposition to reveal Truth to us, to tear down boundaries and bring us to a oneness. While many times the Truth He revealed were words that left many uncomfortable, He seems never to refrain from being open to hear people’s questions and engage them in conversation. I believe this should be the attitude taken with President Obama coming to Notre Dame this May. While there may be no formal forum set up to challenge the President’s reasoning stemming from his recent decision-making policies in the areas of abortion and stem-cell research, I presuppose he will attend the entire graduation ceremony. This means that he will not be the only voice heard. Hopefully, he will be actively listening to other speeches given. This is an opportunity for the voice of Christ in our Catholic faith to be heard. This can be a shining moment of enlightening others to why we hold ALL life, no matter who’s life it is, as sacred, upholding the words we profess in the our Creed: “God is the maker of heaven and earth, of all that is, seen and unseen.” We are ‘stewards’ of this creation, not the makers or destroyers. We hold sacred the unborn, not just because the Catholic Church professes this belief, but because in the roots of Scripture we proclaim it in the words of Psalm 139:13,15-16: “For it was you who formed my inward parts, you knit me together in my mother’s womb….My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately woven I the depths of the earth, Your eyes beheld my unformed substance.” Pilate, before Jesus, questioned ‘what is truth?’ In response, Jesus did not berate or rebuke Pilate as He stood before him. Neither people of Notre Dame nor we should do the same towards President Obama. Rather, we should stand as Christ for the Truths we hold, remembering that while Jesus never kept silent the Truths He held; He also never ‘pushed’ His beliefs upon others. Many times, it takes time, a lot of prayer and perseverance to come to see the ‘Truth.’ The disciples of Jesus ‘didn’t get it,’ for the first time around. They didn’t get it until they allowed Christ’s Spirit to really touch their lives. In the end, it will be that Spirit that will change people’s hearts, understanding and way of looking at life. And, that Spirit comes from us, given to us by Christ through the sacraments we receive. As St. Paul says, “It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me, and the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself to me.” [Galatians 2:20] May these words be the motto in which we deal with others, remembering the words of St. Paul to the Colossians 3:17, “Whatever you do, in faith or action, do it in the name of Christ.” One final word…. Some have suggested that perhaps it is okay for President Obama to come to the commencement ceremonies at Notre Dame, but an honorary degree should not be bestowed upon him. This is a curious point and worth pondering. However, another curious instance happened when French President Nicholas Sarkozy received the title of honorary canon of the Basilica of St. John Lateran [the Pope’s official Parish Church] during his visit to Rome in 2007. President Sarkozy, who also met Pope Benedict, supports legal abortion. What would Jesus have done?
Robert | 4/10/2009 - 2:35pm
Finally a voice that of reason has spoken up. I find that raising questions is a better way of raising a person's conscience then simply stating that someone is wrong in light of the Catholic Churches doctrine on 'right to life'. Archbishop Quinn certainly hits the nail on the head to say it is important to continue a dialogue (as President Obama continually has affirmed) then to simply cut off communication by condemning someone (world leader/nations) that do not agree on every view point. If President Obama invite to Notre Dame is withdraw based on his 'abortion' view point; where were our American bishops in asking that other presidents who supported war and other artocities not held to the same standard. Does the unborn life hold more weight than the life of any other human being?
Matt S. | 4/10/2009 - 1:20pm
I find it ironic that the vocal anti-abortion crowd has come down so hard on ND, yet, was very silent when Ronald Regan was the speaker. They are demonstrating their lack of knowledge regarding abortion in America. In the 1970's two states had been the first to legalize abortion. New York and, you guessed it, California. Nelson Rockafeller(sp) was the Govenor of NY, and signed it into law.In California, Ronald Regan was the one who signed it into that state's laws. What Roe v. Wade did was state that a medical procedure available to patients in those two states needs to be available throughout the country. Yet, many Roman Catholics seem to idolize the various ideas of President Regan, and would welcome him to speak at any ceremony, without understanding his important role in this whole abortion controversy.
George McCartin | 4/10/2009 - 12:09pm
Please Archbishop Quinn write more often. The Vatican rule forcing retirement at age 75 should have exceptions for bishops of your stature and intellect. Voices like yours "crying in the wilderness," give hope to the many Catholics on the brink of "throwing the baby out with the bath water."
Marie Rehbein | 4/10/2009 - 11:57am
I quite honestly do not know why Obama accepted an invitation from an institution representing a religion that is both intolerant and theocratic. Just kidding. It is not the religion or even the Church. It is some people, whose interpretation of their religion and the rules of their Church leads them to believe that intolerance is called for and theocracy is a noble goal, who are interested in defining who may speak, where and when. They would have preferred Randall Terry, perhaps?
Roger Kaestner | 4/10/2009 - 11:06am
Thank God for this thoughtful and timely article. My sentiments exactly. A clenched fist never changes a heart of stone. Peace and Prayers !
Mary G | 4/10/2009 - 9:12am
Bravo Archbishop Quinn. When I went to a liberal arts college, the College of William and Mary, many years ago, one of the unspoken premises was that students were to be exposed to ideas that differed from those with which they had grown up. As a history major and the daughter of a small businessman in Ohio, for example, I was intrigued to learn that FDR had not been a dictator and that New Deal programs had helped many, many people. The idea was that students would conduct research, analyze the results from different sources, reach conclusions, and be prepared to defend them. Exposure to new ideas can be "dangerous." I exited college a moderate, pragmatic Republican (now an extinct species). Notre Dame would be much diminished if it abandons its commitment to teach critical thinking to its students.
Gail | 4/9/2009 - 11:03pm
God Bless you Archbishop Quinn. This Easter I am praying that you and other wise leaders in the Church will speak out with voices of reason and compassion. To borrow a line from Pope Benedict, we seem to be "fixated on one-sideness." Jesus prayed that we would be one. This Easter season we should all put away our "one-side" and join Our Lord in His prayer.
Richard D. Covioni | 4/9/2009 - 10:06pm
Good Lord, Finally, a bishop who makes sense, who knows something about human nature, about living in a pluralistic society, about the nuances involved in the separation of church and state. Hallelujah. There really are Catholic bishops who know how to lead.
Joe Maddalena | 4/9/2009 - 8:18pm
Bravo, Archbishop Quinn! At last, the voice of reason and prudence. I fear that the bishops who condemn Notre Dame for inviting President Obama to the University will only further marginalize the Catholic voice in our pluralistic society. It took the Catholic Church decades to get a seat at the table in this country. We just might lose it.
Peter Martial | 4/9/2009 - 7:44pm
I generally agree with Archbishop Quinn. But I think the whole argument disguises a deeper issue. To many on the Catholic Right you are no longer considered a "Catholic" if you oppose the criminalization of abortion by the State or if you support gay marriage. To many on the Catholic left what defines Catholicism is social justice for the poor, opposing the death penalty and war, and supporting taxpayer support for Catholic social welfare organizations. For both sides, Catholicism is reduced to a political agenda. Why? I suggest that, for both sides, this is because the ossified mythology of our religion, as exemplified by the Creed, is now meaningless to people's lives whereas politics is seen as very relevant. For example, we are required, under pain of mortal sin, to attend Mass every Sunday, to confess at Eastertime, to attend Mass on the Assumption and the Immaculate Conception, to refrain from any sexuality outside heterosexual marriage open to procreation, etc. Few Catholics, however, see any relevance whatsoever between Mary's Asumption or Immaculate Conception to their own lives -- and that goes for Jesus' Resurrection and all the rest of the mythology. Few believe in any of this stuff anymore. So, consciously or unconsciously, the bishops, trying to remain relevant to our lives, have now entered politics, usually, but not always, on the side of the Republican right. I see the whole business as the death knell of the great spiritual engine of Western Civilization. A religion that is reduced to partisan politics is a religion that is dying. And the bishops, sadly, seem oblivious.
Billie R | 4/9/2009 - 5:05pm
I will be careful with my initial introduction since I would not like to be censored by the content editor. To begin as a Canadian, I suppose I have a unique perspective on what is being said. You see, should a Catholic College or University happen to withdraw an invitation to speak or even decide to withold an honourary degree to our Prime Minister Stephen Harper on moral/ethical grounds. There would be no fear of political consequences or fear of what the Prime Minister might do. I suppose this is the advantage of a parliamentary democracy. Early on, Catholic were protected in Canada through the Quebec Act, and these protections continue through to today. Sadly, due to how the American System political worked over the past two centuries up to the present there has been a need for Catholic to fear popular politicians. Undoubtedly, this is why the Archbishop seem to be channeling the fears of previous American Prelates of the 19th Century. Things got so bad then, that Pope Leo XIII was compelled to identify a heresy called "Americanism". It might be timely for the Archbishop to read Testem Benevolentiae Nostrae here is the link: http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Leo13/l13teste.htm
John Patrick Ryan | 4/9/2009 - 4:55pm
Nancy Pelosi can take great comfort from the Archbishop's words. Coming from San Francisco, home of the pro-abortion "Catholic", number 2 in succession to the President, Archbishop Quinn would do well to explain to the tens of millions of children surgically killed by abortionists in America, why "prudence" was more important than Truth in dealing with the scandal of pro-abortion "Catholic" politicians.
JOHN KELLY, Deaon | 4/9/2009 - 4:32pm
I, like Erin Dolan, have a child attending the University of Notre Dame. My wife and I, like Erin Dolan, send our child to the greatest Catholic University in the country so that she will become a faithful servant of God. We want her to have an education that explores the moral implications of living in the world from many viewpoints. It seems to me that is the commitment that Notre Dame has made to us and to my daughter. Other than that comment, I cannot add anything to the elegant position written by Erin Dolan with which I agree.
Monica Serrani Leffler | 4/9/2009 - 1:47pm
This issue unfortunately brings to light the great fault of many in the Church to focus on one pro-life issue: abortion. There are many other injustices that deny life to the vulnerable: death penalty, torture, war, extreme poverty. We must remember that Jesus told us to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit the prisoner. Reversing Roe vs. Wade tomorrow will not stop abortion. Human beings have aborted babies for thousands of years. Some will still continue to do so whether it is legal or not. Let us focus on what we can do to reduce abortion: health care for all, just wages, education about life beginning at conception, promotion of adoption; essentially, recognizing that abortion is a social justice issue. I see many people using the abortion ideological battle to draw a line between "us and them", to call other people "baby killers" or "cafeteria Catholics." Does this language truly help save babies, or does it just help some people feel morally superior?
Sister Maureen Paul Turlish | 4/9/2009 - 10:41am
Our country is built on the right to freedom of expression and one would hope that includes the free exchange of ideas and open and intelligent discussion on important societal issues of our day, particularly on a university campus such as Notre Dame!
Jill | 4/8/2009 - 6:32pm
It seeme to me that some of us are missing the point here. The problem with Obama speaking at Notre Dame on May 17, 2009 is his extreme and radical beliefs concerning abortion. It is the fact that he has acted on hie radical pro-choice views very quickly in his first 100 days in office. He has made his views on abortion crystal clear and the American people have heard what he has said crystal clear. We are not just dealing with normal pro-choice beliefs, his beliefs go beyond and are indeed outrageous. He wants the FOCA to "force health and medical professionals to perform abortions regardless of religious beliefs" very soon. I think I heard the law "expires" tomorrow. Wait a minute ! It seems like it is okay for Obama to disregard the beliefs of the American people. What about what we believe ? What about the late trimester abortions that Obama has no problem supporting ? He has already stated that he has no regard for the life of a baby who was supposed to be aborted and survives. The baby is to lay on a table until it dies. That my folks is called murder. When you do not render medical care to someone in need you are negligent in the death of a human being. I call a baby who has just been born laying on a table someone who needs major medical care. If the baby comes out breathing it is alive. If the baby stops breathing and you did nothing to prevent it you are a murderer. Does this sound like someone who should be speaking at Notre Dame. And by the way, this is not just a catholic issue, it is a christianity issue. I could go on forever, but these are just two of the major issues Obama stands for. I think they are pretty extreme. Since when do we put laws into place to "force" people to perform acts against there will and belief system. Hmmmmmmm... sound familiar ? There are medical professionals who do not want the law to be changed, only reinstated. This law has been in place for decades and now, thanks to Obama it is going to be "radically and quickly" changed. But Obama has made himself clear in that his views are not the same. Medical professionals stating that they will leave their profession if forced to perform abortions. Notre Dame, I hope you make the right decision. Students are upset about this situation and do not even know if they will attend their own graduation because of the inner turmoil this has caused them. It would be a shame if students cannot go to their own graudation ceremony after spending lots of time and effort to better your educational institution for 4 or 5 years. And their parents who have spent lots of money should get to see their son or daughter graduate from a renowned and prestiious university. After all, without the students and their parents support there is no university. The students seem to be the stronger party in this matter in standing up for what they believe is right, which is more than we can say for the officials at Notre Dame who invited Obama in the first place.

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