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This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Gerard O’Connell and Colleen Dulle discuss U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio’s visit to Pope Leo XIV, along with recent developments between the Vatican and the Society of St. Pius X, which has committed to ordaining new bishops without the Vatican’s approval. In the second part of the show, Colleen and Gerry look at the pope’s visits to Pompeii and Naples, and Gerry explains why he thinks Pope Leo’s forthcoming encyclical won’t be published on May 15 as expected.

Chapters:

  • 0:00 Intro
  • 1:15 New developments between Vatican and SSPX
  • 5:24 Marco Rubio visits the Vatican
  • 7:33 What Rubio and the pope discussed
  • 9:01 The Vatican’s history mediating between the US and Cuba
  • 13:31 Where the U.S.-Vatican relationship stands now
  • 18:38 The viral moment between Rubio and the pope
  • 20:42 Leo’s resonance with U.S. Catholics
  • 23:43 Pope Leo’s visit to Pompeii
  • 25:30 Leo supports popular piety in Naples
  • 27:59 Pope denounces organized crime in Naples
  • 30:27 Pope Leo’s planned summer trips
  • 32:03 Why the encyclical is not coming May 15
  • 33:41 Outro and credits

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Each week, Colleen Dulle goes behind the headlines of the biggest Vatican news stories with America’s Rome correspondent Gerard O’Connell. They'll break down complicated news stories that have a whole lot of history behind them in an understandable, engaging way. Colleen and Gerard will give you the inside scoop on what people inside the Vatican are thinking, saying—and planning.

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