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JesuiticalMay 23, 2025
Pope Leo XIV waves as he arrives for his first weekly general audience in St. Peter's Square at The Vatican, Wednesday, May 21, 2025. (AP Photo/Gregorio Borgia)

On this week’s episode of “Jesuitical,” Ashley and Zac are joined by Mark Francis, C.S.V., who was a seminary classmate of Pope Leo’s (then known as Bob Prevost) at Catholic Theological Union in Chicago in the late 1970s. Father Mark is the provincial of the Chicago province of the Viatorian community, and he describes Pope Leo as a thoughtful and sensitive leader—even in their seminary days.

Zac, Ashley, and Fr. Mark discuss:

  • Pope Leo’s formation at C.T.U., where he learned alongside women and engaged with social justice issues
  • How Pope Leo’s language skills, governing experience and global perspective will be key assets in his papacy
  • Why efforts to put Pope Leo in a box are doomed to fail

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