We cannot let the sexual abuse crisis lead us into homophobia

We have been hearing a lot about the sexual abuse crisis from the pulpit, but this past Sunday the pastor at my parish crossed a line. As background, two of our last four pastors have been removed from ministry because of sexual indiscretions. It tore our hearts out to hear the survivors’ accounts. Many of us felt betrayed and devastated to lose priests who had led our parish for years. Somehow, by grace no doubt, much of our parish family kept coming to Mass.

Our new pastor did not mention any of this. Instead, he praised Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò’s letter, which accuses several church leaders, including Pope Francis himself, of covering up allegations of sexual misconduct against former Cardinal Theodore McCarrick. This is not a time to leave the church, our pastor said, but to reform it.

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After some faint words about loving members of the L.G.B.T. community and recognizing the cross they bear, our pastor brought up the John Jay report on clergy sexual abuse, which was released by the U.S. bishops in 2005. Noting that 81 percent of the survivors in that report were male, our pastor said the cause of the sexual abuse crisis was “predatory homosexuality.” Archbishop McCarrick had a pro-L.G.B.T. agenda, he said, and there are others like him. They are to blame, so said my pastor, for child abuse in the church.

The idea that “predatory homosexuality” is the cause of the sexual abuse crisis in the church is absurd.

“It’s time that all false shepherds be removed from positions of power,” he said. “Any bishop, priest or religious order priest who supports and is active in the homosexual culture needs to be removed from their post.”

A version of that last quote also made it into Prayers of the Faithful. Some parishioners walked out.

After Mass, I exchanged some brief words with my family and friends about leaving our parish, which I’ve attended since my family moved to this country 30 years ago. How ironic that, after two pastors had been removed because of sexual abuse, we would consider leaving because of a homophobic pastor. My 11-year-old son was with me, but he seemed to be more interested in spotting his friends coming out of Mass.

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“Do you know why we were so upset with Father D.?” I asked him later, one on one. He did not.

“Do you remember what he said in his homily?” He did not.

I explained. I explained that some priests, not all priests but some, had abused children. These priests threatened the children so that they would not tell anyone. These priests tricked families and violated the trust the community had placed in them. I explained how some bishops, not all bishops but some, had covered for these priests. How these bishops prevented the priests from being punished by the police. I explained how some of the bishops who covered for the priests still have not been punished themselves.

“You know what it means to be gay or lesbian, right?” He did. We had talked about it before. “You know that we are not meant to judge people who are different than we are. Jesus doesn’t want that. He wants us to love everyone, even people that are different.” He knows. And he knows that people who are gay and lesbian and bisexual do not choose to be so.

Some Catholics would like to exploit the abuse crisis to promote anti-L.G.B.T. agendas. We cannot stand for it.

“Well, what Father D. said was not nice to people who are gay and lesbian. It was mean. He was basically saying that people who are gay are the reason why there was abuse. And that’s not right. It’s not true. And it’s not what Jesus wants. And it’s even worse because he’s our pastor and he said those things.”

I think he understood.

The abuse of children happens both inside and outside the Catholic Church. Overall,girls are far more likely to be sexually abused than are boys. The idea that “predatory homosexuality” is the cause of the sexual abuse crisis in the church is absurd. It is an old myth that has nothing to do with the facts. It is dangerous.

Over the years, the Catholic Church has taken strides to become more welcoming to the L.G.B.T. community. I am proud of that. What our pastor seemed to argue is that welcoming the L.G.B.T. community is somehow causing sexual abuse. Yet sexual abuse has declined over the years the church has become more welcoming.

There are some Catholics, like our pastor, who would like to exploit the sexual abuse crisis to promote anti-L.G.B.T. agendas. We cannot stand for it. We cannot regress to this.

We must protect our children from predators. The sexual abuse crisis has made that clear. But we must also protect our children from those who demonize people because of their sexual orientation. In all things, we must strive to be like Jesus Christ. Our children will learn from our example.

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Stanley Kopacz
2 months 1 week ago

I'm betting 200 comments on this one.

Harvey Milk, MD
2 months 1 week ago

LMAO. J Cosgrove and Tim ODreary were up to bat first. Shocker!

Close the comments permanently. They are a huge eyesore and a reminder how broken people are

J Brookbank
2 months 1 week ago

Tim, this has nothing to do with sexual abuse. Zip. Nada. Two priests violated their vows of celibacy. That is the story to which you linked.

Your leaps of logic are destructive to those engaged in a sincere effort to understand how to prevent sexual abuse by clerics.

Your leaps of logic from "illegal sexual abuse of children and abuse of power via sexual harassment by clerics" to "consensual and legal sexual activity between two clerics, which violates their vows " also destructive to your credibility and your insistence that you are not bigoted.

In using the sexual abuse/sexual harassment crisis to beat the drums of bigotry, you exploit victims and steal attention and energy that is much needed for them.

Tim O'Leary
2 months 1 week ago

J - as I have said earlier, sexual abuse of minors is not the only sexual scandal in the Church, and everyone outside of a mental asylum of demonic club seems to accept that it is evil, even those who perpetrate it, or cover it up. What is more damaging to the integrity of the Church is that people have risen up the hierarchy who, in their thoughts, words and deeds, have come to believe in sodomy as a good, and or to enable and hide these terrible and persistent sins of their brothers, or even get them promoted. It damages the whole body and must be rooted out. As you said before, you think sodomy is no big deal (if consensual) and anyone who objects is a bigot. I think you are gravely mistaken. The exclusionary rule for candidates for the priesthood that Pope Francis re-affirmed in May has this aim, but it is too slow, and a generation of souls will be lost. More immediate action is required.

J Brookbank
2 months 1 week ago

This link in tbis article represents a textbook case of homophobia

Tim O'Leary
2 months 1 week ago

J - is this a cut and paste from your comment below. If you mean Joseph Sciambra, he was an active homosexual for years, and came back to the Church when he realized how destructive it was to his body, mind and soul. He should know more than you. I note you don't address any of the specifics.

J Brookbank
2 months 1 week ago

Tim, your link to this specific story in the Washington Post article in response to this specific article in Anerica Magazine is a textbook example of how homophobia is created and disseminated.

Eddy LeRoque
2 months 1 week ago

Do tell. How about Vatican II and the smoke of satan nonsense? by the erstwhile the Malachi Martin. Mr O'Leary your alter ego maybe The Church lady and your altar ego maybe Pontifex Maximus the great and powerful... Wizard of Traditionalists. Timmy 1

Harold King
2 months ago

More so it is a part of a club that rejects the Magesterium. If all rejection of the church' s teaching on celibacy and homosexual acts even by Clergy from Bishops with seminarians is ok, as long as disputedly consensual, given the power imbalance, then why would we expect any solid teaching of the Magesterium to hold any legitimacy? Whether on contraception, abortion, same sex"marriage", divorce, pre-marital sex, cohabitation, adultery, the whole edifice of biblical and traditional church teaching falls apart. This is not just about pedophilia but a network of cover-up throughout the church about all matters regarding human sexuality and the family as Fatima and Akita predicted.

Stan Zorin
2 months 1 week ago

@ J Brookbank - You express yourself like you are an anti-Catholic bigot. I know that you want the Church to become fully "modern" and accept the humanist-Luciferian notion that it is not God who should dictate to Man what is moral and what is immoral but it is Man who should lecture God about what is good and what is bad. From the pastoral letter of bishop Robert Morlino [August 18] : “For too long we have diminished the reality of sin — we have refused to call a sin a sin — and we have excused sin in the name of a mistaken notion of mercy. In our efforts to be open to the world we have become all too willing to abandon the Way, the Truth, and the Life".

J Brookbank
2 months 1 week ago

Stan, wild response to a Catholic saying a couple of priests having sex in a car should be removed from the priesthood forthwith.

Tim's linking to this story in this context is a textbook case of how homophobia works.

Harvey Milk, MD
2 months 1 week ago

Glad to see J Brookbank holding Tim’s feet to the fire. Tim says he is a physician but he shows no evidence to substantiate evidenced based data diagnostic prowress. He is probably a witch doctor or in deference to those practitioners, a “which doctor” one who embraces relativism.
What is it with him authoring almost half of all comments on these forums, not including the numerous other aliases he uses on here?
Pope Francis pontificate will be fine. Its the rabid fundamentalist Trads who should be disconnected from the internet. Then they would have to get jobs and deal with real people in vivo

Tim O'Leary
2 months 1 week ago

George - you mean I could be J, creating low-content responses so I can respond to myself with the right answer? Glad to see you are a supporter of Pope Francis. So am I. Now let's get to the bottom of the cover-up, perpetrated no doubt by a coterie of paranoid anti-Catholic lobbyists inside the Church.

Trent Shannon
2 months 1 week ago

Hatin is Satan

Guess you know the false lightbringer well

How is being merciful and loving to the LGBTIQ+, calling out homophobia for the hate it is, bigoted or even anti catholic?

I wont wait for your explanation because I know you don't have one. Maybe you could pray the gays away?

Theodore Seeber
2 months 1 week ago

J Brookbank- one cannot consent to abuse. And what happened was indeed abuse, even when it was a Cardinal raping Seminarians.

For that matter, I have grave doubts that homsexuality can ever be consensual. Ontologically, it's always abuse.

Trent Shannon
2 months 1 week ago

And that has what to do with abuses that occurred between the 1960s and 1990s, which are only being revealed now?

Youre a hater. Just say it. You hate and fear and thus persecute the LGBTIQ+

Im bisexual, a child abuse survivor, have found God and will be formally Catholic in two months. Get this through your ignorant skull

CHILD SEX ABUSE IS NOT HOMOSEXUALITY! ABUSE OF ALL FORMS IS ABOUT POWER AND CONTROL! YOUR VITRIOLIC FAG BASHING IS A BLIGHT ON MERCY AND LOVE. IT IS DIVISION, AND INDICATIVE OF WHATS IN YOUR HEART

People like you, uninformed, with no concern for abuse survivors at all, make me sick.

Go read LifeSite or Church Militant instead, you'll be amongst your homophobic buddies there

Phillip Stone
2 months ago

Trent Shannon - Surely you do not think your attitude and speech is temperate or respectful?
I reveals a lack of self-control and immature impulsiveness and outright rudeness.

Can you be more specific about the violation you say you experienced? Was it only verbal and or emotional or definitely sexual? Just make sure in your own mind the true nature of the trauma, the truth is important to your future regardless of what others know or do not know.
Let us talk turkey - your sexuality did not develop normally and there is no evidence that same-sex attraction is genetically determined. Your whole life has been changed presuming that without being violated, you would have been able to transition from child to adolescent to adulthood maturing in your male heterosexual normality with a quite high degree of probability, but not with absolute certainty.

So, you were gravely sinned against and the consequence, lust appetite for males and females with a compulsive element is the scar and deformity left on your psycho-somatic functioning: this is just the same as being crippled by polio or by being run over on purpose and leaving permanent damage in the physical world.
You are not alone.
Damaged sexual attraction and distorted sexual identity is well known to result from abuse - you did not do the harm to yourself but it did change you in a terrible way as self directed guilt, shame, anger and loathing are part of the burden. Jesus took flesh, was born, suffered and died for you. He still looks you full in the face with agape love, titanically stronger that erotic "love", and bid you to accept fellowship with Him. He will help you to heal and forgive and that does not mean, make you straight. Adam and Eve and we were thrown out of the garden of Eden and angels with flaming swords even now guard the way back - it is forbidden to us. We are called forward into the Kingdom of God and the future where 'there is neither Jew nor Greek, neither slave nor free, nor male and female' NT Galatians.

Stanley Kopacz
2 months 1 week ago

Yep. Close and then bulldoze "Comments". Then sow the ground with salt.

Tim O'Leary
2 months 1 week ago

But Stanley - that would only prove the clericalism.

Stanley Kopacz
2 months 1 week ago

Tim, Long-Garcia ain't a cleric. Letters to the editor are good enough.

Tim O'Leary
2 months 1 week ago

Stanley - as Pope Francis said. You don't have to be ordained to be part of the clericalism problem.

Stanley Kopacz
2 months 1 week ago

Tim, parties are fine. But when the guests start throwing beer bottles, it's time to close it down. Commonweal closed down comments. NCR closed down but threatens to bring it back. The internet and its spinoffs are disasters. It just brings out the worst in people.

J Cosgrove
2 months 1 week ago

Most readers never comment. They silently take things in. I spent years on a much more contentious forum with atheists as adversaries and it was informative for readers who saw the specious arguments they used and then understood the basis for the atheist's beliefs were bogus. I'm sure it is similar here as people who never comment see who has the more logical arguments.

Vincent Couling
2 months 1 week ago

Tim, instead of scapegoating gays, should focus on the true source of the coverup ... "Saint" JPII (and his head of the CDF Joe Ratzinger), BXVI, and the likes of the former US nuncio, Vigano.
"After an outcry, Groer was replaced and made the prior of a convent. He was never punished and issued only a vague apology in 1998 before retreating to a nunnery where he lived until his death in 2003. Some of his victims were offered “hush money” from the church.

Michael Tfirst, 54, one of Groer’s victims, claims to have reported the abuse to highranking church officials from the 1970s onwards. He says the church paid him £3,300 in 2004 under a contract that obliged him to keep quiet.

“There is no question that Ratzinger knew all the details of reports on abuse within the church, as there is no doubt that John Paul, his superior, took part in a massive and systematic cover-up,” Tfirst said.

John Paul also faced criticism last week from Poland for protecting Archbishop Juliusz Paetz, who was accused of abusing trainee priests. Letters detailing the charges were sent to John Paul’s office and to Ratzinger in 2000 but were ignored. Paetz resigned in 2002 when the allegations became public.

Stanislaw Obirek, a Polish theologian and a former Jesuit priest, said: “I believe John Paul is the key person responsible for the cover-up of abuse cases because most of it occurred during his papacy. How can someone who is to blame for this be beatified?”

In America critics pointed out that although Benedict has borne the brunt of criticism over ignoring the scandal of Father Lawrence Murphy, accused of molesting 200 deaf boys at a special school in Wisconsin, Ratzinger had acted on the authority of John Paul.

Another beneficiary of John Paul’s discreet approach was Marcial Maciel Degollado, a Mexican priest known as Father Maciel, who founded a conservative religious order. He was accused by former members of abuse in 1998. John Paul blessed Maciel in the Vatican in late 2004, at a time when Ratzinger was investigating him. A year after Ratzinger became pope, the Vatican ordered Maciel to lead “a reserved life of prayer and penance”, effectively removing him from power.

John Paul was also accused of ignoring controversy over John Magee, a former private secretary to three popes including the Polish pontiff, who named him Bishop of Cloyne in 1987. Late last month Magee was forced to resign after an independent report found that his diocese in Ireland had put children at risk.

In the Vatican the spiralling allegations have prompted a siege-like mentality. Father Federico Lombardi, Benedict’s spokesman, declined to comment on John Paul’s handling of abuse cases. “We’re busy with Easter celebrations, let’s focus on the homilies,” he said." https://web.archive.org/web/20100531183440/http://www.timesonline.co.uk

Paul Mclaughlin
2 months 1 week ago

There are two issues. The first has to do with priests messing around with kids. Any report should be sent to the police for investigation and action. It is a legal matter and this what cops are paid to do - investigated reported crime. If there are allegations of rape, these too should be sent to the police. The Church has no standing to investigate these issues. There are alleged civil crimes. The second has to do with sex between consenting adults.

When it involves a priest or religious, this is a Church matter because they took a vow of chasity. Thoroughout my life I have heard of as many cases of priests messing around with the female housekeeper, church secretary or organist as I have of priests having sexual relationship with an adult male. These situations require a determination of whether these guys should be defrocked. If two people want to make out in the back seat of car or engage in other sexual conduct - i’d Tell them to get a room, but let’s be honest - most of us have gone on a date, at some point in our lives, and we “made” out with the girl or guy in the back seat of the car.

Having sex with a child is a pathology and crime. Raping someone is a crime. A priest having sex with a consenting adult is a broken vow. Two people having sex in the car is lust, which is neither a legal matter or a sacramental matter (unless they are married to another person.)

With this said, I suspect their are many secrets held by priests and bishops of sexual escapes - illegal and violations of vows. These secrets impede action.

The only way to deal with this is to form a lay panel and start at the top and gather the files. Review the files and one-by-by one bring in for an interview each priest and ask them two questions - have you had illegal sexual contact? Have had consensual sex with another adult? If it was sex with the another priest or religious, they should ask for the name or names.

I know this sounds like the Inquisition Part Two, but it is the only way to weed it out. If anyone comes forward to admit consensual sex, there should be some mercy in the formula on what to do. If it is a one and done, versus serial activities, the penalities should be different.

J Brookbank
2 months 1 week ago

I agree with your thinking in terms of completely separating out discussion of he two kinds of behaviors, criminal/non-consensual vs non-criminal/consensual.

(Though the car incident was irrelevant here, I do think that if any community leader or, in this case vowed celibate's, sexual activity results in arrest, game over in almost every case, assuming the arrest is legit and not harassment. Judgment, respect for your position, all that good stuff).

Darlene Marchina
2 months 1 week ago

Finally, the best response to these issues! A lay board to investigate is the answer as called for by Bishop Barron!

Robert Lewis
2 months 1 week ago

The fact that the chief perpetrators of the cover-ups, the "conservative" pontiffs, John Paul II Wojtylwa, and Benedict XVI Ratzinger, are getting almost none of the blame for what is revealed by Vigano's overheated allegations demonstrates perfectly that the sexual predator McCarrick's case is being used as a pretext by Pope Francis's ultraconservative opponents within the Church to destroy his papacy. They will not concur that he alone, among recent popes, has all along been pro-active in combating the predators, and that he alone is innocent of passing predators off to other dioceses. (Ratzinger in Munich was quite different from Ratzinger in the Roman curia.) l believe the dam against the laity's hatred of the same-sex-attracted has now broken, and there will be no silencing the drums of such as Rod Dreher, stirring the witch hunt against even chaste and celibate clergy. I'm profoundly sorry to say it, but I think it's time for my gay Catholic friends and their supporters to leave the Church, and to find a spiritual home amongst others, who are able to respect them as human beings and ensure their psychological health. Meanwhile, as you search for a new faith home, my friends, keep all gay boys away from the priests, even the straight ones, and do not allow any of your gay children to read the comments on this and other "America" threads.

Phillip Stone
2 months ago

You are no more Ignatius Loyola than I am a donkey, but you are not somebody anyone would want to keep company with. Hypocrisy, verbal violence and ad hominem attacks are your order of the day.
Grow up, shut up or go away if you are unable or unwilling to enter into adult dialogue.

Richard Scope
2 months ago

This happens in Africa. .

J Cosgrove
2 months 1 week ago

It’s time that all false shepherds be removed from positions of power, Any bishop, priest or religious order priest who supports and is active in the homosexual culture needs to be removed from their post.

This is what author objects to. Why would it lead to homophobia? No reason to be homophobic in this comment by pastor. Isn't this the Pope's, official America, the magazine, and Jesuit policy? Non sequitur!

J Brookbank
2 months 1 week ago

J, Tim proved the author's point by linking to a story about a couple of idiots who got caught having sex in a car in broad daylight. They violated the vows, they violated basic standards of decorum and decency, they have some obvious boundary and judgment issues. Of COURSE they got fired. Of course they should not be Catholic priests or religious leaders in any community and of COURSE they are not fit moral teachers for children and schools and young adults.. Of COURSE this is a story. Of COURSE they are idiots and embarrassments Of COURSE they got arrested.

Tacky, tawdry and lewd behavior, and hopefully they never see a pulpit again.

And exactly WHAT does that have to do with the sexual abuse crisis or the abuse of power when seminarians are harassed by superiors?

But Tim provided the link in his first response to this piece.

Tim exploited the sexual abuse/harassment crisis to tell us all a story about tawdry, tacky violations of vows in the form of consensual sex between priests of same age and clerical "rank'.

No abuse, no harassment, no abuse of power.

Yet here it is.

Talk about a non sequitur.

It is a textbook example of the homophobia the author against which the author warns:

1) the topic of sex abuse in the RCC arose;
2) Tim told a story about illegal and vows-violating sexual behavior by two gsy priests;
3) he called it "another horror story" just published, implying this is another "horror story" in the sexual abuse crisis; thus
4) attempting to create an equation in which ANY sexual activity by a gay priest is related to sexual abuse:
5) hence we should fear gay priests.

It is, again, a textbook example of homophobia and it is dishonest.

Tim O'Leary
2 months 1 week ago

You are in full cover-up mode. It is not only 2 priests behaving badly. They were involved in Casa Jesus, a Chicago homosexual group posing as a priest recruitment outreach to Hispanics. It was so bad, that even Cardinal Cupich couldn't put up with it. He suspended it, but secretly, so it wasn’t known to even many Chicago priests. That is part of a cover-up. This should have been publically announced, to protect other young men. Read it and tell me this is not central to the seminarian abuse problem. Some quotes from targeted young men: "When I was at Casa Jesus, I used to go to gay bars, bring my friends,” said Luis Stalin, a former Casa Jesus seminarian. “They didn’t say anything.” "celibacy was often ignored." Father Octavio Munoz, was also removed. Also, tell me why Out-at St. Pauls isn't doing the same thing with lay men? https (Fr. Martin: "The parish that I go to, the Church of St. Paul the Apostle in New York...Pastor Gil Martinez, and the group Out at St. Paul…a flourishing ministry.) ://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/casa-jesus-chicago-archdiocese-suspension…
http://josephsciambra.com/the-deep-gay-state-in-the-catholic-church-pro…

J Brookbank
2 months 1 week ago

Tim, again, providing this link in this story is a textbook case of homophobia

Tim O'Leary
2 months 1 week ago

J. You forgot bigoted, and racist... Did you mean the link to Cardinal Cupich? I note no response on Casa Jesus. You work so hard at this cover-up. It is almost as laughable as the so-called scholars who reinterpreted the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah as inhospitality.

J Brookbank
2 months 1 week ago

Tim, your link the specific story in the Washington Post in response to this specific article in America is a textbook example of how homophobia is expressed and created and facilitated

Tim O'Leary
2 months 1 week ago

J - Is Casa Jesus a homophobic plot. Call Cardinal Cupich.

J Brookbank
2 months 1 week ago

Tim, your link the specific story in the Washington Post in response to this specific article in America is a textbook example of how homophobia is expressed and created and facilitated

Stan Zorin
2 months 1 week ago

@ J Brookbank. - Yes, truth is homophobic.

Trent Shannon
2 months 1 week ago

Dude, that IS homophobia

Tim O'Leary
2 months 1 week ago

Here goes. JD - I don't think you were being fully truthful to your child. Sex abuse of minors in the Church is mostly same-sex, the opposite outside the Church. So, your paster was agreeing with Pope Francis, who in May 2018, had the following issued: "It is necessary to state clearly that the Church, while profoundly respecting the persons in question, cannot admit to the seminary or to holy orders those who 1) practice homosexuality, 2) present deep-seated homosexual tendencies or 3) support the so-called gay culture." Why, if these 3 groups are excluded from the seminary, shouldn't they be excluded from the active priesthood? Wouldn't it be unjust and hypocritical to do otherwise?

Douglas Howe
2 months 1 week ago

Exactly it goes against all the pastoral guidelines in the Church to admit those who suffer from homosexual tendencies to the clerical life. They are there for good reason and the recent crisis shows us why.

Trent Shannon
2 months 1 week ago

Wow "suffer"

You care more about hating homos than victims of the priests. FYI, as an abuse survivor, you dont know suffering, nor how abuse is about power and control... and as a bisexual, you have no idea how sexuality works.

How dare you decide who becomes ordained or not! There is no catechism that says "no gays allowed" - and if you think the activities are a sin, i raise you the 25 years ive borne one cross for predation by 3 hetero offenders, and the 36 years ive borne the other one for the emotional abuse by my mother

Abuse is a sin that affects people for the rest of their lives. Celibate gay men do not even come close to sin

Youre a homophobe, plain and simple. And you dont guve a damn about survivors for all your hate

J Brookbank
2 months 1 week ago

We don't call sexual predation by heterosexuals "predatory heterosexuality".

We call it "sexually predatory behavior".

And it is always wrong, regardless of gender or orientation, except when explicitly consensual.

Tim O'Leary
2 months 1 week ago

J - it is wrong even when explicitly consensual. What kind of fornicating priesthood are you advocating for?

J Brookbank
2 months 1 week ago

Staying on topic is hard sometimes, isn't it, Tim?

Kevin Murphy
2 months 1 week ago

The pastor sounded pretty on-target to me.

Trent Shannon
2 months 1 week ago

You sound very homophobic to me

Child abuse (physical, sexual, emotional) is about power and control. Child sex abuse is predominantly committed by heterosexuals. In predominantly male environments (boys church choirs, altar boys, boys boarding schools etc) victims will predominantly be male

Oh and the abuses are passed. Since the 1990s and especially since Spotlight in 2002, church attitudes and reporting of abuse has changed dramatically.

The abuse and the cover up has NOTHING to do with homosexuality or homosexuals in the church. It is ABUSE, its own pathology/psychopathy, both in the actual abuse, and the clerical "defend the church at all costs" mishandling of the situation. And you are forgetting about survivors, let alone the way forward

Thanks for dragging me down as a triple CSA survivor, a bisexual, AND a soon to be catholic

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