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On Saturday morning, Feb. 28, the U.S. and Israel launched strikes on Iran, killing its leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei along with other senior regime figures. The following day, Pope Leo appealed for peace, urging world leaders to stop “the spiral of violence before it becomes an unbridgeable chasm.” This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Veteran Vatican Correspondent Gerard O’Connell explains why he saw Leo’s comments as relatively restrained compared to John Paul II’s at the beginning of the Iraq War.

In the second part of the show, Gerry shares a story from his forthcoming book on the 2025 conclave.

Chapters:

  • 0:00 Intro
  • 2:20 Vatican response to Iran war
  • 7:05 John Paul II on the 2003 Iraq War
  • 9:07 Pope Leo decries ‘zeal for war’
  • 10:48 Archbishop Coakley speaks out on war
  • 11:30 On the Christian communities of Tehran
  • 12:50 Pope Leo talks on Hong Kong activist Jimmy Lai
  • 14:18 Cardinal Parolin’s statements on the war
  • 19:00 What difference the Vatican make
  • 22:14 Stories from Gerry’s new book on the conclave
  • 25:40 Cardinal forgets to give away his phone
  • 27:25 Cardinals unused to having no phones
  • 29:00 Behind the scenes of the conclave
  • 32:05 Is the conclave not ‘top secret’?
  • 33:26 Outro

Links:

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Each week, Colleen Dulle goes behind the headlines of the biggest Vatican news stories with America’s Rome correspondent Gerard O’Connell. They'll break down complicated news stories that have a whole lot of history behind them in an understandable, engaging way. Colleen and Gerard will give you the inside scoop on what people inside the Vatican are thinking, saying—and planning.

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