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This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Gerard O’Connell and Colleen Dulle are joined by longtime Vatican journalist John Thavis to discuss the strained relationship between the Vatican and the Priestly Society of St. Pius X, after the Society said it plans to ordain new bishops July 1 with or without papal permission.

Chapters:

  • 0:00 Intro
  • 1:08 Pope Leo travel updates
  • 4:36 What is the Society of St. Pius X?
  • 7:14 SSPX’s beginnings and beliefs
  • 12:46 The 1988 SSPX bishops’ ordinations
  • 16:48 Pope Benedict and the Latin Mass
  • 22:24 Benedict lifts excommunications, offers autonomy
  • 28:05 Pope Francis’s actions on SSPX and Latin Mass
  • 30:34 Questions facing Pope Leo XIV
  • 36:37 What do the Vatican and SSPX each want?
  • 42:57 Update on Feb. 12 meeting with Cardinal Fernandez
  • 44:00 Credits

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Each week, Colleen Dulle goes behind the headlines of the biggest Vatican news stories with America’s Rome correspondent Gerard O’Connell. They'll break down complicated news stories that have a whole lot of history behind them in an understandable, engaging way. Colleen and Gerard will give you the inside scoop on what people inside the Vatican are thinking, saying—and planning.

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