The Church's Response to Orlando

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Archbishop Blase Cupich of Chicago joins Matt Malone, S.J., and Kerry Weber to discuss the mass shooting in Orlando and how the church ought to respond.  

David Mooneyhan
10 months 1 week ago

It's AMAZING that the Church can feign ignorance about its fostering of homophobia for two millennia. They INVENTED the word "sodomy," and applied it to US. And burned us at the stake.
READ the 1986 "Letter to the Bishops of the Catholic Church on the Pastoral Care of Homosexual Persons" if you want to define self-parody. Very few gay people give a flying fig about what the Church teaches on this subject, and the reality-denying content of this "pastoral letter" tells you why.
I wish I had the energy tonight to type out the whole illogical missive, but let me just quote this gem:
"But the proper reaction to crimes committed against homosexual persons should not be to claim that THE HOMOSEXUAL CONDITION IS NOT DISORDERED. When such a claim is made and when homosexual activity is consequently condoned, or when civil legislation is introduced to protect BEHAVIOR TO WHICH NO ONE HAS ANY CONCEIVABLE RIGHT, neither the Church nor society at large should be SURPRISED when other distorted notions and practices gain ground, and IRRATIONAL AND VIOLENT REACTIONS INCREASE."

L J
10 months ago

It is good to have Abp Cupich in Chicago

Stan Zorin
10 months ago

@David Mooneyhan - What have you got against "homophobia" ? It is a natural reaction against moral disorder and evil. We would be utterly stupid or depraved not to be homophobic. To illustrate how ridiculous you are in your eagerness to abolish 'phobias', are you a naziphobe ? Or pedophilephobe ? Or terroristphobe ? Also, sodomy is a revolting practice to stick one's p...s to where it does not belong. Are you that dumb to actually approve of it ?

Robert Hugelmeyer
10 months ago

The focus on guns is a red herring misleading the average citizen to suggest changes in our Second Amendment right to bear whatever kind of arms available short of military grade weapons. Yes, every State should have laws to prevent allowing just anyone to purchase a gun. Sensible gun laws make sense but should not lead to banning and/or confiscating all guns leaving citizens unarmed and vulnerable to a hostile government. Instead of the root cause being radical Islam for the murdering of 49 human beings some want to blame the sexual orientation of the victims and the availability of guns. Background checks are vitally necessary in all purchases in all venues but it would not have made one bit of difference in the Orlando shooting or any of the other mass shootings. The culprit passed the background check. Bottom line, the bad guys can always get guns and the good guys who may have been helpful in stopping the carnage would be deprived of their right to buy and carry a gun. As for the Church which bases its teachings on the natural law must condemn the homosexual behavior and make no judgement as to an individual's culpability. All of us are asked to deny ourselves, pick up our cross, and follow the Lord. We fail over and over again but the mercy and forgiveness continues to flow.

CLARKE COCHRAN
10 months ago

Thank you, Archbishop, for saying: “It’s very important to bring people back to reality.” It applies to so many areas. You and Bishop Robert McElry are two bishops that i look to for a voice of relevance and also harmony with Pope Francis. I was massively disappointed in the US bishops’ priorities that ignored climate control, etc. I am a retired biologist. I also appreciate very much whatever i can find on youtube by you. As a homebound parishioner, I also wish there were a way i could see or listen to your Sunday Masses. I live in Seattle. — Elsa Sabath, Our Lady of Fatima :)
(Thanks to my deacon Clarke Cochran for posting this for me.)

Lenora Grimaud
10 months ago

I completely agree with everything that Robert H. had to say. It seems as though we cannot see the forest for the trees. We get disracted by all these little issues, like the individual trees, and miss what is really important. How often do we need to tell our children, "Its not all about you, get over yourself." The bottom line is that America is at war with Isis, a "Radical Muslim Terrorist" group of people who want to take over America and either kill all her people or convert them to their ideology. In Orlando, the target was Gay and Lesbian people; tomorrow, it may be Catholics, or Muslims, or women, or some other "tree" in the forest. It does not matter whether Marteen was gay or straight, he was first, and foremost, a terrorist who supports Isis. What are we going to do about it? How are we going to protect our people? How are we going to defend ourselves? Do we just resist and let them lead us to the gas chambers?

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